Healing from the Inside Out: Whole Health, Energy Alignment & Women’s Wellbeing with Surekha | Hot Flushes & Higher Self

0:05 Soraya: Today I'm joined by someone whose work I deeply admire.

0:49 Soraya: Surekha is the founder of Whole Health Healing.

0:52 Soraya: She's a kinesiologist, trauma healer, and intuitive energy practitioner with over 25 years of experience helping women release what the body has held on for far too long.

1:02 Soraya: And what I love about Surekha's approach is how she brings together the physical, emotional, and energetic layers of healing, guiding women to understand the deeper patterns beyond their symptoms and gently unraveling generational imprints and reconnecting with the wisdom that their body has been trying to express.

1:20 Soraya: And her work is powerful, compassionate, and helping women reclaim their energy, step out of old cycles and rise into greater freedom and alignment.

1:30 Soraya: And in today's interview, we'll be exploring her journey, the magic of kinesiology and energy healing, and how releasing emotional and ancestral patterns can create profound transformation, especially during midlife and times of transition.

1:45 Soraya: So hi Surekha.

1:47 Soraya: Surekha, I'm saying it properly, right?

1:49 Soraya: Yes.

1:50 Soraya: Surekha.

1:51 Soraya: Welcome to the podcast Hot Flushes and Higher Self.

1:54 Soraya: I'm so glad that you can make it.

1:56 Soraya: Thank you for having me.

1:59 Soraya: Yeah, pleasure.

2:00 Soraya: So, first of all, just share a little bit about your own journey and what inspired you to become a holistic healer and launch whole health healing.

2:09 Surekha: Yeah, so uh the journey started in my early 20s when I was looking for some answers, I was struggling in my life, um, I was experiencing physical pain in my body.

2:29 Surekha: Um, things like fibromalgia were showing up, although I didn't know it was that then.

2:37 Surekha: Um, I was getting chronic migraines, um, then sort of IBS and fatigue came along, and I then found a pranic healer through a friend of mine, and that was my first experience of seeing healing, having um experienced it myself.

3:03 Surekha: And um I said to myself, I want to do what she's doing, I want to learn, and that's when I started very early on the panic healing journey, and then I went on to do uh massage therapy in my later year 20s.

3:26 Surekha: Um, then I got married and had children, and I parked everything to a side until I left my corporate job, and I again went a friend told me about a kinesiology session that I could go to and I loved it, and I said to myself, I want to learn what she's doing.

3:48 Surekha: So I can see a pattern here.

3:49 Surekha: I've never said it out like this.

3:50 Soraya: So you had the pranic healing.

3:52 Soraya: This is what happened in your 20s.

3:53 Soraya: You were interested in the pranic healing, so you did pranic healing, then you got married.

3:57 Soraya: Um age 30.

4:00 Soraya: Okay, yeah.

4:01 Soraya: Then you bumped into a friend who did kinesiology, so you wanted to do kinesiology.

4:06 Surekha: Told me about a lady in my local area that I didn't even know.

4:10 Surekha: Yeah, that was when I was around like what, 35, something like that, 35, 36 years old.

4:21 Surekha: So I went off to this kinesiology session.

4:24 Surekha: She did uh use my arm to do something called muscle testing, which I'll explain later.

4:30 Surekha: Um, but she managed to get all these answers from my arm and um told me what to eat, what not to eat.

4:42 Surekha: Um, that was very much based on food at the time because some kinesiologists check food intolerances.

4:50 Surekha: Um, it's part of what I do, but I do so much more.

4:54 Surekha: But at that time it was what I needed, and then I went off and looked up kinesiology and found my lovely teacher, Andrea Clark, who I'm still very close to today, which is like nearly almost 10 years later.

5:13 Soraya: Okay, so so far pranic healing followed by kinesiology, those are the two stories, right?

5:20 Surekha: Yeah, yeah, and then it's it follows on from the kinesiology because I was looking for a cure.

5:27 Surekha: Yeah, so the pranic healing was in was not enough, massage was not enough, hot stone therapy was not enough.

5:35 Soraya: I was was not enough for what syrup.

5:37 Soraya: Sorry, which because you said you had the fibromyalomyalgia, the chronic migraines.

5:44 Surekha: What what were you looking for?

5:45 Surekha: When I say not enough, I wasn't looking for a cure for me, I was looking for a cure for other people.

5:53 Surekha: Okay, I know that for yourself because you had those conditions.

5:58 Surekha: What helped you with that?

6:00 Surekha: So that's been part of my soul's journey, and the fibromyalgia I do not have anymore.

6:10 Surekha: Oh wow, because and this is a this is a huge part of my journey and learnings, because about three years ago I had and I received some past life kinesiology.

6:26 Surekha: And in those two sessions, because I was um a guinea pig for one of my friends who was doing her exam at the time, and in those sessions, I had when we were talking about past life kinesiology, I went through so through the sessions, I had these downloads and I saw images of myself in previous births, and I saw myself buried deep in to the ground, sort of waist down, and I saw myself being stoned by a number of people, and then I looked up the image, and it there was an image of uh that happening to people.

7:13 Surekha: So it was it was real, it confirmed to me that that's what happened to me, and then that night I felt burning all over my body.

7:24 Surekha: So the trauma was labeled, I was aware of it because you have to be aware of what your patterns and cycles are, what your trauma is, and it came up, and it was like my body was literally on fire, and all of a sudden I was like I was lying in my bed, and this energy started lifting from my body.

7:49 Surekha: Wow, and that is was the fibromalgia releasing itself from my body, and I it has I've had it's come up on a couple of occasions when I've been triggered by extreme fear, but it is not present in my life.

8:13 Surekha: Whereas I had it for 20 years, I used to wake up with it every single day as if I've been hit by a car and I had whiplash every single day, and I do not have that anymore.

8:26 Soraya: Wow, and that was from which one exactly was that which modality did you use to help you?

8:32 Surekha: Using the kinesiology but going into past life, and at that point past life regression?

8:41 Surekha: No, it's not actually past life regression.

8:44 Surekha: I now today in 2025, I mean I think I had it done in 2022, but today I call it karmic decoding, um, past life trauma release.

8:58 Surekha: It's very different to past life regression.

9:02 Surekha: So if I can explain with the past life kinesiology that I now offer as part of my services, past life kinesiology, yeah.

9:12 Surekha: I've named it, I've named it past life.

9:15 Soraya: Because I've never I know kinesiology and I know past life regression, but I've never heard past life regression.

9:20 Soraya: Uh not past life kinesiology, so please tell me.

9:23 Surekha: Tell us I would love to.

9:26 Surekha: So past life kinesiology is me tapping into your subconscious energy body and asking your body to reveal to me what has happened in your previous births, where has your trauma come from?

9:44 Surekha: And I will muscle test if you're in front of me.

9:47 Surekha: I will use your arm so it will go weak or strong.

9:51 Surekha: If you're on a Zoom call with me, I will muscle test using my own fingers so it'll be strong or weak.

10:00 Surekha: And this will tell me where your trauma has come from, it will tell me how many previous lives ago.

10:11 Surekha: So I can ask the question, how many lives ago was it?

10:14 Surekha: And it will say something like three lifetimes ago.

10:17 Surekha: It will link exactly what you're going through to when um it where did it come from and the origin of where it was in your it will be generational trauma or it will be past life trauma.

10:36 Surekha: And then I will then find out what the emotions were that got trapped.

10:43 Surekha: Because the reason why we have this physical pain is because we have unprocessed emotions and stored um and trapped emotions, which are like wounds in the body.

11:00 Surekha: Wow.

11:02 Soraya: But before you said that you had like you could see the actual scene.

11:07 Soraya: So is that just for yourself, or can you see that when you see your clients?

11:11 Soraya: Let's see.

11:12 Surekha: I can see that for myself, and then it also comes in for my clients.

11:18 Surekha: So I work very intuitively.

11:20 Surekha: They might not be able to see the images, but I am able to see it for them.

11:27 Surekha: It might just be revealed by muscle testing answers.

11:31 Surekha: Other times it might be that I go into a whole story of what happened to you in your past life and who was there.

11:41 Surekha: I I do ask questions like were you male or female?

11:44 Surekha: Were you married?

11:45 Surekha: Were you a child?

11:46 Surekha: So it reveals information to us about what happened to you when the trauma first came in.

11:56 Soraya: Wow, fascinating.

11:57 Soraya: So this is something that you've created, and how long have you been doing this for Sureca?

12:03 Surekha: I have been so energy healing.

12:06 Surekha: I started in my early 20s, which was um a good 25 years ago, but the real transformation work came about in 2019, and it actually came from my own awakening, which was my marriage breakup.

12:26 Surekha: So I had been living a life of in actually in fear, guilt, shame, um, not living my truth, not living out my passion, not being at my full potential, and I had an awakening because I was so unhappy I was not going to do anything different at that time.

12:55 Surekha: I would have just probably stayed in my marriage, but the universe had other plans for me and woke me up.

13:06 Surekha: Yeah, yeah, woke me up with my physical pain and with my emotional pain.

13:16 Surekha: And this is what I put out in 2025 today that we cannot continue to live in that pain, and it's about understanding what that pain is trying to tell us.

13:34 Surekha: So I started understanding my pain, I started listening to Joe Dispenser, um Gabrielle Bernstein, those kind of um people who are in the transformation field and using energy because what I love about Joe Dispenza is he talks a lot about energy.

14:01 Surekha: And I call myself an energy healer because what I am doing is helping you to shift your vibrational frequency, fear, guilt, and shame to love, joy, gratitude, and faith.

14:16 Soraya: Yeah, which is great.

14:17 Soraya: Yeah, I mean, we're all made up of vibrations, aren't we?

14:19 Soraya: And it's about tuning into the frequency, the change, to to kind of be on that level that we want to bring in what we actually want to come into our life, as opposed to attracting the bad thing, which is what makes yeah.

14:31 Soraya: So tuning the radio to the station we want to listen to.

14:35 Surekha: It's that because our current reality will be whatever we radiate out to the universe, yeah.

14:44 Soraya: I believe that too.

14:46 Soraya: Um, so did you going back to your past life kinesiology?

14:51 Soraya: Was that something it evolved in 2019, the the time that you broke up in your relationship?

14:56 Soraya: The same time you said when you had the enlightenment.

15:00 Soraya: This past life kinesiology you kind of created in 2019.

15:06 Soraya: Was that the same time you were going through this breakup of your marriage?

15:09 Soraya: Is that what you said?

15:10 Surekha: So past life kinesiology came in about 2021.

15:17 Surekha: So I had I was I was practicing the kinesiology in 2019 alongside me going through my own transformational journey.

15:30 Surekha: Okay, it was huge, it was huge because I started to understand that I could change the outcome of my life based on how I felt about myself, um, the thoughts and feelings that I was projecting out into the universe.

15:54 Surekha: Yeah, and I yeah, I was going through my own transformational journey, um, and I was my own guinea pig.

16:07 Surekha: So I used to stand and look in the mirror and tell myself that was absolutely beautiful, and I would feel it and I would know it and I would believe it.

16:18 Surekha: And for the first time in my life, I didn't need my ex, now my ex-husband, to tell me that I look beautiful because for 20 years I was pining after him to tell me that I look beautiful, tell me that you love me.

16:37 Surekha: Um, and yeah, I I realized that I didn't need that anymore.

16:44 Surekha: I did not need an external person to tell me that I was beautiful, that they love me.

16:51 Surekha: It all started coming from within, and that's also when I started connecting more to source, the universe, or what I like to say is God.

17:02 Soraya: Yeah, that's yeah, that's incredible.

17:03 Soraya: I mean, we I'm gonna touch more about that a bit later on because that's something that's really interesting, especially for my listeners who are going through midlife and through that change in their life.

17:12 Soraya: And there's a lot of kind of it's a very difficult transition, but so I want to talk about it a bit more bit later.

17:18 Soraya: But for now, um, I wanted just for listeners who don't really know, um you explained do you explain how kinesiology can support emotional, physical, or energetic healing?

17:33 Surekha: Yes, absolutely.

17:34 Surekha: So kinesiology is about me tapping into your subconscious energy body to reveal answers from your body, and the way it supports you is it's decoding your pain, and uh what I put out on my social media as a consistent message is your pain has a message, yeah.

18:04 Surekha: Absolutely, yeah, and we don't always know what that message is because we are so used to suppressing our feelings through, and for some people that's their coping mechanism.

18:22 Surekha: If they they think that if they start feeling their emotions, then they won't, you know, it's like opening up a can of worms, or then people have all sorts of ideas about feeling their emotions, but in a safe space, this is absolutely invaluable to be able to be held and be able to express your emotions in a safe space is part of the healing, like it's a huge part of the healing, aside from the decoding work that I do in the kinesiology.

19:05 Soraya: Yeah, so the kinesiology itself, I completely agree.

19:09 Soraya: I do believe that pain has a message, and a lot of the time in our society, people try to just cover up with a band-aid, like with a plaza, the symptoms, like by maybe like self-medicating or taking drugs.

19:22 Soraya: Um, but it's definitely giving us the message we have to um address.

19:26 Soraya: But how does kinesiology support the healing?

19:33 Surekha: So if I can take you through the process that I use in in sessions, is as I said, it's it's the decoding work that is going to be of most of the support to my clients.

19:49 Soraya: Yeah.

19:50 Surekha: And that is the piece that what is your pain trying to tell you.

19:54 Surekha: That is what how kinesiology supports you.

19:57 Surekha: And when we know uh what the message is, yeah, it's you are here to learn something, right?

20:06 Surekha: We are here to do something different, we're here to break patterns and cycles.

20:14 Surekha: Now, if you keep on doing the same thing every single day for the rest of your life, your life and the outcomes in your life and your current reality will remain the same.

20:27 Surekha: Okay, yeah, right?

20:29 Surekha: Absolutely, yeah.

20:31 Surekha: Yeah, whereas you're supposed to be doing something different, but you don't know what you're supposed to be doing.

20:37 Surekha: And so I'm here to show you how it is that you can break those patterns and cycles.

20:45 Surekha: What is it that your ancestors didn't learn and you're carrying in your blood that you need to learn?

20:53 Surekha: What is it that previous versions of you in previous births didn't do?

21:01 Surekha: And now you're here to break those cycles.

21:06 Surekha: Kinesiology supports you with that.

21:11 Surekha: So then when I find out what it is that you're supposed to be learning, and coupled with the emotions that are trapped in your body, which you never process, which your ancestors never process, and are wounds literally, like they're like bullet wounds in your body.

21:33 Surekha: When I find out what it is, I remove that bullet wound using crystal pranic healing.

21:40 Surekha: So I've got a crystal wand that I use, I locate where it is in your body.

21:47 Surekha: So step one is to understand what are the trapped emotions.

21:52 Surekha: Step two is to understand the patterns and cycles.

21:57 Surekha: Step three is where is it located in your body, and step four is let's remove it from your body.

22:06 Surekha: We literally remove that wound, um, that bullet wound from your body, and then I send healing, love and light, which is channeled from the universe.

22:22 Surekha: I bring light down, and I am the vessel and for the the love and light, and then that comes through my hands, and then we we don't put the plaster on just on on the wound, we literally heal the wound from the deep roots.

22:43 Soraya: And so, how long does this usually take then when you're working with clients when you when you do the four different steps?

22:49 Soraya: Is it so we can do this?

22:52 Surekha: We can do this all in one session, but however, trauma comes off in layers.

22:59 Surekha: If you think about it, lifetimes and generations of trauma, we need time for um the layers to come off.

23:11 Surekha: We go away and we process, we become the new version of ourselves, we shift our frequency, then we go again, which is why I offer a six-week program or a 12-week program.

23:26 Surekha: My signature program, Empower Your Wings, has now been running for six years.

23:32 Surekha: Yeah, that's the one.

23:34 Surekha: Empower your wings, the path to liberation.

23:38 Soraya: So, and what are some ways your clients may might uncover and release deeper patterns or emotions that are hidden beneath the surface?

23:45 Surekha: That is it.

23:46 Surekha: It's it's literally the generational trauma and the past life trauma.

23:50 Surekha: It is not isolated to this life because we place so much power on this lifetime, and even in a child, I'll cover in a child, but that's tiny compared to our soul's journey.

24:07 Surekha: I work on a soul level.

24:10 Soraya: Yeah, because I started the Akashic Records.

24:13 Soraya: So is that the kind of concept that we have these contracts that were in place and we have these different lives, we keep coming back?

24:19 Surekha: Yeah, that's it.

24:20 Surekha: It's it's not Akashic Records, however, it can work very well, Akashic Records can work very well alongside what I do.

24:31 Surekha: Um the way I work is I link the trauma um to what you're going through now.

24:40 Surekha: So, for example, if you came to me and said that you were stuck with business and you had a had a block and you you were only moving so far in your business, and you had growth in terms of money coming in, and now you you're not seeing any growth.

25:03 Surekha: I would then look at that link to in which previous birth was then their trapped emotions related to this, or then looking at generational trauma, which side has it come from, mother's side or father's side, because your parents would have faced the same challenges.

25:26 Surekha: Yeah, your ancestors would have faced the same challenges, and then you go off and heal, and you change your current reality.

25:38 Surekha: It's something that they weren't able to do.

25:42 Soraya: I'm just thinking that for listeners who don't really know much about like you know these different lives that we have, is there a kind of a summary how you can explain how that works?

25:52 Surekha: Yes, I can.

25:53 Surekha: Um, so the only way I can describe it is we are a soul.

26:00 Surekha: And when we leave, we leave our bodies.

26:07 Surekha: So when we die, we leave our bodies, which is the costume that we wear.

26:13 Surekha: Yeah, the vessel we're holding.

26:15 Surekha: Yes, exactly.

26:17 Surekha: But the soul remains, the soul is eternal, so we then have rebirth, so we come back and we wear a different costume.

26:30 Surekha: So this is what I mean by we are creating cycles of birth and death, and that cyclical um pattern shows up everywhere.

26:46 Surekha: So when I was talking about if you do the same thing every single day, you will see the same outcome.

26:53 Surekha: The same thing applies to the number of lives that you have been living.

26:59 Surekha: Yeah, if you do the same thing in every single lifetime, you come back and do the same thing.

27:06 Soraya: Yes, you will come back in this human existence living that same life again, suffering the idea to evolve, like so you have a different life next time.

27:17 Soraya: Um, so because I always kind of like I I like to think about things like this, you know, from a spiritual aspect, what happens?

27:24 Soraya: So, would you say that if we come back into um a different body, a different life, is there ever an end?

27:30 Soraya: At what point do we kind of like elevate and go to heaven, you know, wherever it is that you believe in?

27:36 Soraya: Well, how does that work?

27:37 Surekha: Yeah, there is.

27:39 Surekha: This is why we have.

27:41 Surekha: I named my program, Empower Your Wings, the Path to Liberation.

27:46 Surekha: Okay, so we are the spiritual ones who are wanting to be free from the cycles of birth and death.

27:58 Surekha: We'll want liberation, we'll want enlightenment.

28:02 Surekha: Okay, so that means we're coming away from the frequencies of fear, guilt, and shame.

28:10 Surekha: And to end those cycles, we are becoming one with source energy, with our creator.

28:19 Surekha: And when we feel that energy of the universe and we become the energy of the universe, there is no separation between you and the universe, and that is enlightenment.

28:32 Soraya: So, yeah, in order to get the enlightenment, I guess you have to learn the lessons in each life until you eventually stop making the same mistakes, and then you can actually you know get the enlightenment and then be elevated, I guess.

28:46 Surekha: So this brings us back to it's really important that we learn those lessons and we understand what they are.

28:55 Surekha: That's what I reveal in my sessions.

28:58 Surekha: What are your lessons?

29:00 Surekha: What are you here to learn?

29:02 Surekha: What patterns are you here to close?

29:05 Surekha: You know, what chains are you here to break things that your ancestors couldn't do?

29:11 Soraya: Yeah, that's that's so interesting.

29:13 Soraya: Like the the your perspective on how it is, because everyone's obviously got their own view, but I'm fascinated by this, it's very spiritual.

29:21 Soraya: Um I want to ask you a bit more about that in a moment.

29:24 Soraya: Um before I do that, I want to say how does working with energy, the nervous system or the subtle body differ from purely mental approaches when someone feels stuck or disconnected?

29:33 Surekha: Yeah, so we're working with energy and vibrational frequency, you know.

29:37 Surekha: You can tell someone all day, every day, oh, just be positive.

29:41 Surekha: Yeah, and I never say that to anyone, by the way, because there are times when you just cannot reframe it and just think positive, it's not just about the mind, there is trauma.

29:59 Surekha: Trapped in your body that you are unaware of things that have been passed down by your parents, you know, things that have followed you in your previous births.

30:11 Surekha: And I'll keep on repeating this message.

30:13 Surekha: This is the reason why you feel so stuck and disconnected.

30:17 Surekha: And all the disconnection actually comes from being disconnected to yourself, being disconnected to the universe.

30:27 Surekha: We've lost that.

30:31 Surekha: We also, when I say being disconnected to yourself, we've lost our own identity.

30:36 Surekha: We don't even know who we are.

30:38 Soraya: Yeah, I think there's society though, isn't it?

30:40 Soraya: There's this like expectation of people, the social media, and everyone's always watching the other person, trying to be something that they're not, and that's it.

30:49 Soraya: You're kind of getting further away from your authentic self.

30:51 Soraya: Which leads me to my next question, which is coming back to midlife.

30:55 Soraya: Um, because this is the point in our life.

30:59 Soraya: I mean, at my age, I'm nearly 50, and it's you definitely have a shift in what's important to you and how you see yourself, and you try to kind of be more connected to be true to your you know what you actually want out of life.

31:13 Soraya: So for the women who should they have shifts in energy, identity, body, and purpose, how can holistic support healing support women navigating these phases?

31:24 Surekha: So the way I teach women is through there's a lot of spiritual wisdom there, and I teach energy and I teach you how to put yourself first without fear, guilt, and shame, and how to take your power back.

31:45 Surekha: So, in terms of navigating these phases, it's not as easy for me to tell someone, oh, just put yourself first.

31:58 Surekha: You can't after years of giving to other people.

32:03 Surekha: So when we're working in the sessions, I actually take my clients through a journey of taking them out of their comfort zone, helping them feel more comfortable with slowly and safely putting them first, put putting themselves first, and what that means, because a lot of people think it's selfish, especially for women.

32:32 Soraya: I think women are you know they're expected to be the serving everyone around them, and it's been selfish when they do stuff for themselves.

32:41 Soraya: So I think that's a very cultural thing as well.

32:44 Soraya: Much more, even in our generation, I still feel women are expected to be there for everyone apart from themselves, and it's be considered selfish to think of themselves in any way.

32:56 Surekha: Absolutely, and there are some women who come to me and say, But I don't even know what it feels like to put myself first, and then to make decisions around putting yourself first feels so scary because there's a fear of losing people that you love, yeah, because the mindset is if I started um putting myself first, meaning it's an illusion.

33:26 Surekha: I I see now, I now see myself as selfish, people are not going to like me, but actually, I teach women that it's the opposite, you can still be that giver, but you're just filling up your own cup first.

33:44 Surekha: So we do a lovely, lovely meditation, a chakra meditation, where we bring in love, love and light from the universe, we bring it down our chakras into our heart space, and we see a lovely cup in the heart space, and we start filling that up with the love and light, and we see it overfilling, and we let it overfill into every cell of our body and the rest of our chakras.

34:15 Surekha: And then when we filled ourselves up, we can then give from that overflow, and it means we're not depleting ourselves.

34:24 Surekha: Absolutely.

34:25 Soraya: I think that's you've got it spot on.

34:26 Soraya: I think the problem is for a lot of women, especially, we're just giving, giving, giving it, and our cup is empty, and then you know, we then burn out because we're just giving all the time, we forget about ourselves because we're not important, but actually, we are very, very important.

34:42 Soraya: Because if we don't have that energy, we can't give it to anyone else, we're going to be useless.

34:48 Surekha: Exactly.

34:49 Surekha: If you are ill and you're burnt out and exhausted, how can you give to anyone else?

34:58 Soraya: I think the problem is, you know, in a lot of like again, I go back to culture because this is what I'm used to.

35:04 Soraya: It's that a woman is always seen as a person like cooking, cleaning, and she can't afford to be sick, so she keeps powering through.

35:13 Soraya: But that's why I see many of my clients who've been holding on to this constantly pushing, they get very sick, and it's it's it manifests in the body, they you know, the disease.

35:22 Soraya: So I think you know, especially in in my area, I see a lot of women coming in in in midlife and they can't hide it anymore, it's coming out, like you know, the anger.

35:33 Soraya: One of my past gets talked about yeah, the hot flushes is like actually repressed anger being held down and like it's coming out.

35:40 Soraya: Absolutely, there's there's so much suppressed anger.

35:46 Soraya: That's what hot flushes.

35:48 Soraya: I believe that's what it is.

35:49 Soraya: You have these hot flushes because you're holding on to so much over so many years, eventually it has to come out.

35:54 Soraya: So when you talk about the work you do, and you're having you know, you're working with these women, it's the idea of evolving, like you know, not repeating the same mistakes and actually be able to change the trajectory of the way you're going to live your life to its full potential, which is what you did, right?

36:14 Soraya: Sure, you're telling me in the relationship you're unhappy.

36:17 Soraya: You had to it took you some work, but you got out of there, and now you're in a better place, right?

36:23 Surekha: Yes, and I use what I've been through to help others in a very safe, gentle but powerful way.

36:33 Surekha: And I have to say that because a lot of women are scared of the transformation and the uncertainty, and I would like to say that it is very safe and we do it at your pace.

36:48 Surekha: This is why it is a six-week or twelve-week program.

36:54 Soraya: Yeah, and I think it's another thing is you know, a lot of us we live the way we do because we're used to it, it's the familiar, it's what we're used to, that's why we do it.

37:02 Soraya: And and sometimes change is scary.

37:05 Surekha: It is.

37:07 Soraya: So it's great that you're there to support who you're working with, just to show that there is that safe space.

37:13 Surekha: Because you know, the support part is huge for me.

37:20 Soraya: Yeah.

37:20 Soraya: Um, so in your sessions and programs, what recurring themes or breakthroughs you witness when people live through the transition?

37:32 Surekha: Oh, yes.

37:33 Surekha: Um oh my god, there's so much to talk about here.

37:37 Surekha: Yes, aren't we?

37:38 Soraya: I'll try and find um especially I'm interested, you know, for our listeners who are going through that midlife um phase, the transition.

37:48 Soraya: I'm interested very much so in with clients of yours who are in that same kind of space and how you you worked with them.

37:58 Surekha: So every single person will come with something different.

38:04 Surekha: Okay.

38:05 Surekha: But what we find is what you said in your question, that there are recurring themes and breakthroughs with all of these women.

38:16 Soraya: I don't just work with women by the way, but No, no, but but for for just our our listeners who are mainly all the women, just for them to see how you know you work in that area.

38:28 Surekha: Yeah, so um do you want me to explain the kind of traumas that that come in or just the outcome of the the breakthroughs that they have?

38:42 Soraya: Uh probably maybe a bit of both.

38:46 Surekha: Yeah, so what I've noticed in the last year and a half is as I've started doing more deep and powerful work, um people who have been abused in many different ways are coming to me.

39:08 Surekha: Uh, whether it's been sexual abuse, mental abuse, verbal abuse, um yeah, all sorts of abuse is coming in right now, and people want to break through from that and and be free from that trauma that they've lived since childhood.

39:30 Surekha: But then what we find, of course, is that it's come through the generations and from their previous birth.

39:38 Surekha: So in terms of the themes, we're getting joy.

39:45 Surekha: So we're we're breaking free from being living in fear, living in guilt, living in shame, living in anger, right?

39:57 Surekha: And then that sacred rage comes through when they realize that they can't live like this anymore, and they are breaking free into a place of like I just feel joyful.

40:18 Surekha: I I I get messages like that used to have an emotional charge on me, I used to get anxiety from that, or that certain situation used to really make me feel low and now it's gone.

40:35 Surekha: I get a lot of messages like that where suddenly there's no emotional charge anymore on those same situations or scenarios.

40:48 Surekha: So, this is what we're seeing, and this is what I call freedom because you're now not being held back by your wounds, by your trauma.

40:59 Soraya: Yeah, you can live life on your terms, right?

41:02 Surekha: Yeah, you're living life on your terms, you're living life lighter, you're feeling joy, you're just an expansive energy body, you know, you're flying, which is why I call it Empower Your Wings, because you are changing from a caterpillar into a beautiful butterfly.

41:25 Soraya: Yeah, that's true.

41:26 Soraya: Love it, and from your perspective, why might the stage of life become a powerful invitation for transformation and reconnection rather than just simply a challenge?

41:34 Soraya: Because I think a lot of the time, you know, people like women might see menopause as a nuisance, like peramenopause, like there's all these changes you're going through, you know, you've got these mood swings, you you kind of forget stuff, it's not really a great time.

41:50 Surekha: What I will say about that is we naturally want to blame something for the way that we feel.

42:01 Surekha: If we don't feel good, we'll we're gonna blame it on the menopause, right?

42:06 Surekha: It's everywhere out there, but actually the way that you feel uh came long before the menopause ever even started to enter your life.

42:21 Surekha: So I want women to look at this as again an awakening because if you didn't um tune into it before, and this is the only time you're hearing this information, loudspeaker, yeah, this is again a way of awakening, you know, knock, knock, knock, I'm here to present you with an opportunity to change.

42:51 Surekha: You know, do not see me as the the bad guy.

42:56 Surekha: We do that with a lot of things, we do that with broke you know, marriages that don't work out.

43:03 Surekha: What do we do?

43:04 Surekha: We blame it on the partner, we blame it on um money not coming in.

43:11 Surekha: So we you know, we start bad mouthing money, you know, and money is beautiful, it's also an energy.

43:17 Surekha: So we want to shift from blaming something outside of ourselves and actually using it as an opportunity to go within and upwards.

43:30 Soraya: Yeah, I think that's a really great way of looking at it.

43:32 Soraya: It's um, you know, it's again, it's that that pain has a message, so the symptoms are in a way like a message to kind of like stop, pause, and take stock of what's going on to actually do something, which is quite empowering.

43:46 Surekha: I think it is very empowering because you're taking your power back, you're now suddenly in control of your life versus I'm letting menopause control my life, or I'm letting a man control my life, or money control my life.

44:07 Surekha: You take your power back and you sit in the driver's seat now.

44:12 Soraya: Yeah, it's again, it's going back to like the teachings by um people like Dr.

44:15 Soraya: Joe the Spencer be create our own reality.

44:17 Soraya: It's what we're putting out there.

44:20 Surekha: Yeah, and you need to believe that you are the creator of your reality.

44:24 Soraya: Yeah, you get it's it's one thing saying it, but you actually have to really embody that belief.

44:28 Soraya: And I guess that's something that you do when you work with your clients, you're working on that kind of deeper.

44:33 Surekha: Yeah, and I don't recommend that you do it all on your own.

44:38 Surekha: Um, another thing that I've been wanting to put out there is that we we watch all this social media, there's loads out there, believe me.

44:48 Surekha: It's a it's a good support tool, but we think that we're healed.

44:52 Surekha: We think that we're healed by just watching a couple of reels here and there and listening to YouTube um meditations, but that is not healing, it's you need more, you need the decoding piece, you need the trauma to be released from your body.

45:11 Surekha: So I invite you to be open to that versus having this mindset that I can just do it by myself and I'm done.

45:20 Soraya: Yeah, speaking about that, so and then you offer one-to-one sessions and holistic programs that you mentioned already, you've got the three different programs, right?

45:28 Soraya: Yeah, so what kinds of transformations have you witnessed in those healing spaces?

45:33 Soraya: Can you just give me like one or two examples?

45:35 Soraya: What have you seen when clients come to you?

45:37 Soraya: How have they left it?

45:40 Surekha: So, a couple of recent clients, there was one lady who, um, if I can say was uh uh abused as a child, sexually abused, and she spent her whole life living in this trauma in a really low space where she was always giving her power away.

46:06 Surekha: There was block joy, she never had that inner sense of joy or happiness, and she came to me on my six-week program, and literally within the first three to four weeks, we started seeing the changes, she had started shifting her vibrational frequency, she started feeling happier, she came away from a relationship that she wasn't happy in.

46:37 Surekha: She started living authentically and began to feel safe to live that life, and she says to me, like, why didn't I find you um in my 20s?

46:52 Surekha: Like, why didn't I find you X number of years ago?

46:55 Surekha: I wish that I had because I feel so good, and so that's one um lady, and then recently another lady who's on my Empower Your Wings program, who is now on my second program called Empower Your Passion and Fly.

47:15 Surekha: We have seen her heal from uh 25 years of depression.

47:22 Surekha: She was on depression tablets, no doctor could help her.

47:27 Surekha: She herself never thought that she would be well.

47:30 Surekha: And she's come out of her depression, and it's never gonna come back.

47:37 Surekha: Wow, she feels joy, she goes out for walks every day, she is now um got her business up and running.

47:47 Soraya: That's a lovely thank you for that.

47:49 Soraya: That's an amazing story.

47:50 Soraya: Thanks for sharing.

47:50 Soraya: So these clients have come to you on these programs, the their frequency has changed.

47:56 Soraya: So does that mean they don't need to do any other work on that?

47:59 Soraya: Is that they're good to go, or is that something you recommend regular um sessions?

48:05 Soraya: So it's kind of like she's out there.

48:07 Surekha: It's it's different for everyone.

48:09 Surekha: So the lady who came to me on my six-week program is now on my 12-week program.

48:16 Surekha: Um, she healed, she transformed so quickly, which is not the case for everyone, but she jumped the queue and she moved straight on to Empower Your Passion and Fly program.

48:30 Surekha: And there are other ladies who come along and start off with Empower Your Wings initially.

48:40 Surekha: So it's different for everybody.

48:43 Soraya: So say, for instance, a client comes to you for like a one-to-one session to deal with an issue and their frequency is improved, they can see the change.

48:51 Soraya: Do they have to come back regularly to keep the frequency up?

48:55 Surekha: So there are instances where they can do my 12-week program, and we get the guidance to say, okay, you you're good to go, you don't need any more.

49:06 Surekha: And there are some people who continue their journey and there's more work to be done.

49:13 Surekha: Not in terms of work, it's more like your soul is evolving and there is more to be revealed, there is more deep work to be done.

49:28 Surekha: And then that and I work very intuitively.

49:31 Surekha: There are some clients who I say uh to you don't need any more.

49:36 Surekha: Um we we we don't need to do any more.

49:40 Surekha: And I'm honest about that.

49:41 Surekha: And then where I get the guidance, I say you'll benefit from continuing.

49:47 Soraya: Okay, so everyone depends who they are, they it's a different um case by case depending on it.

49:53 Surekha: The women really appreciate that.

49:55 Surekha: You know, there's one woman I said, you know, after one program, you don't need to do any more, and she said thank you so much.

50:02 Surekha: She said, 'You could have taken my money and just um told me to do more.' And I said, It's not about that.

50:08 Surekha: I said, I'm here to do the right thing by my clients.

50:13 Surekha: If I think that you'll benefit from doing more, I will encourage you to do more.

50:19 Surekha: But if you're done, then I'll say have a break.

50:21 Surekha: And if you want to come back to me later in three to six months' time, like you know where to find me.

50:27 Soraya: Yeah, but I think that's so important as a you know wellness practitioner just to be honest and to really have the best interest of your client at heart.

50:35 Soraya: And that's what makes it.

50:36 Surekha: Always.

50:37 Surekha: Always and keep them in that safe space.

50:40 Surekha: You know, my my business is built on trust.

50:43 Surekha: I've been doing this for you know, I've got 25 years of experience in energy healing and this transformation work have been, and I've been on social media for six years, I'm all over social media, so you can look me up anywhere, and you will find comments, reviews, and it's all the same, you know.

51:05 Surekha: The results showing the results of my work, and I'm quite proud of that.

51:10 Soraya: Yeah, as you should be.

51:11 Soraya: I think, but it again it's we do have a really important um part in our clients' lives and they trust us, so it's so important to so important, yeah.

51:21 Soraya: Yeah, so yeah, I think um I was gonna ask you now, you're coming to the retreats in November.

51:29 Soraya: I'm so excited for that.

51:30 Soraya: You're coming with your colleagues with Nimi.

51:33 Soraya: You guys will be at the retreat.

51:34 Soraya: I think it's on the Saturday the 29th, the Saturday, right?

51:38 Soraya: Um, what can we expect from you on that day?

51:44 Surekha: Yeah, so we've got a lovely, lovely collaboration lined up.

51:48 Surekha: So Nimi will be um running the cacao ceremony and um doing a little bit of uh journaling, and then I will follow with my lovely um backflowers.

52:04 Surekha: So these backflower remedies that you can take under the tongue, which help you to shift your vibrational frequency, and we'll be doing some crystal pranic healing.

52:19 Surekha: I'll have my magic wand there.

52:22 Surekha: I like I like the sound of it.

52:24 Surekha: Yeah, we'll be doing some releasing and letting go of the trauma that we're holding on to, shifting from fear, guilt, shame, anger, resentment, and frustration into higher frequencies, such as love, joy, gratitude, bliss, and empowerment.

52:50 Soraya: It's a great way to open up the retreat because that'll that'll be the first session we have on the Saturday.

52:55 Soraya: So I think that's a really perfect way to start it.

52:58 Surekha: Yeah, I'm super excited about that.

53:01 Soraya: Thank you for that.

53:02 Soraya: Um, and then could you share one simple embodiment energy or body wisdom practice that listeners could try at home today to reconnect with themselves?

53:12 Surekha: Yes, it's something that I mentioned earlier, which is filling up your cup, and this is something that has just come about, and I do it again and again, when we bring our feet to the floor so that we're grounded to Mother Earth, and we bring in light from the universe, bring it down through our crown, which is at the top of the head, to the third eye, in the middle of the eyebrows, down to the throat chakra, and into our heart space, where we see this beautiful cup, and we see that beautiful love and light filling up our cup, and as it fills up, you can see that beautiful overflow, and that is when you give to the rest of your chakras the solar plexus, the sacral, your root chakra at the bottom of your spine, and bring it all the way down to your legs, to the soles of your feet, and give to every cell in your body and feel and see each cell smiling away because it has been so nurtured and so nourished.

54:37 Surekha: And when you have filled up your cup and filled up and charged up your whole body with love and light, that is when you can bring it up back into your heart space and send out that love and light to all the people that you love, like we love doing, you know.

54:58 Surekha: We don't want to stop you from giving, that's not what we're here for.

55:03 Surekha: We just want to fill up our own vessels and feel that beautiful energy within ourselves so that we feel good and then we can expand and radiate that out.

55:17 Surekha: Well, that felt very relaxing, so thank you.

55:20 Soraya: I did practice that.

55:22 Surekha: Lovely, yes.

55:23 Surekha: I have a beautiful recorded meditation with that, the longer version of that.

55:29 Soraya: But even that short one was really nice.

55:31 Soraya: Um I think it's just taking that few minutes to yourself, you know, makes a difference.

55:36 Surekha: Yeah, as you can see, it just takes a few minutes.

55:40 Soraya: Yeah, that's the best way.

55:42 Soraya: A time saver.

55:43 Soraya: Um, you can't say we haven't got time for that.

55:45 Soraya: No, so do you have a personal ritual or daily habit that helps you stay bound in the line of your deeper truth or higher self?

55:55 Surekha: I do alongside that particular meditation and an energy protection ritual that I do.

56:05 Surekha: I would like to talk about more the daily habit that I embody, which is being my truth and honoring myself.

56:15 Surekha: Having had a lot of um chronic physical manifestations in my body, it has taught me to see my energy as sacred.

56:32 Surekha: I do not do anything that dishonors me and my energy.

56:38 Surekha: So if someone asks me to do something that goes beyond my boundaries, I will just be truthful and say that I I cannot do it.

56:51 Surekha: And I've learned to do that over the years without any fear or guilt.

56:56 Surekha: So it's about being true to myself, everything to say no, they're not afraid to say no.

57:06 Surekha: I think that's it.

57:07 Surekha: Not afraid to say no, and having clear boundaries, and people respect me for that.

57:16 Surekha: Yeah, people respect me for it, you know.

57:20 Surekha: They like I just before I came on the call, I had someone message me saying, Can can you um take a call right now?

57:32 Surekha: And I said, I will call you when I'm free in two hours' time.

57:38 Surekha: So I have no guilt about doing that.

57:42 Soraya: You see, yeah, this thing that you know we always try and do so much, is this fear of missing out, but it's actually you've got to pick what you want to actually do.

57:53 Soraya: You can't do everything so we become burnt out, and you also become resentful, so it's so good.

57:58 Soraya: That's a great tip.

57:59 Soraya: Just say no when you want to, yeah.

58:02 Surekha: And I also um help and support my clients to go on that journey when it feels fearful to say no, because if you've always been a yes person and you've been a people pleaser, to say no overnight is scary because how are people going to react to you?

58:24 Surekha: Right?

58:25 Surekha: So there's we change our energy first, we start honoring ourselves first.

58:31 Surekha: You might not have to say no in the beginning, it might just be done with your energy.

58:38 Surekha: You might just want to slowly distance yourself from someone that is overstepping the boundaries.

58:45 Surekha: So you see, this is why you need someone to guide you through that process.

58:49 Surekha: Yeah, makes sense.

58:53 Soraya: Um, and what's lighting you up most in your work at the moment, Sureca?

58:58 Surekha: Oh my goodness, what isn't lighting me up?

59:01 Surekha: Uh lighting me up is the fact that I can help so many women get life-changing results, and the work is becoming so much more powerful as I grow and evolve and have stepped um through my own fire, you know.

59:31 Surekha: I am also stepping into a space where I'm running ceremonies.

59:36 Surekha: Um, there was a time when I had fear about that as well.

59:41 Surekha: So I I I do collaborations with other healers.

59:47 Surekha: Um, so I'm I'm doing kundalini work at the moment uh in North London.

59:54 Surekha: And I think the biggest thing for me at the moment is doing this fusion of Kundalini and kinesiology.

1:00:02 Surekha: I'm trained in Kundalini.

1:00:04 Surekha: Um, so I'm working with another practitioner.

1:00:08 Surekha: Um we're doing this lovely, lovely fusion, which is new and it's about raising the life force energy, kundalini energy, yeah, alongside with kinesiology and trauma release, and it just works so well.

1:00:31 Surekha: So that's um exciting.

1:00:35 Soraya: Something new that you're working on now.

1:00:36 Soraya: Yeah.

1:00:38 Soraya: And if you could leave women listening with one message about reconnecting their power, body, and purpose, what would it be?

1:00:47 Surekha: It would be that you have permission to put yourself first.

1:00:56 Surekha: It's something that my one of my uh I did a talk the other day, um, and one of the listeners said to me, Thank you for giving us permission to put ourselves first.

1:01:18 Surekha: Because sometimes we don't know that we can, we don't know that it's okay to do that, we don't know it's a possibility.

1:01:28 Surekha: So I'm putting out the message to women that it is safe to put yourself first.

1:01:35 Surekha: There you have a right to put yourself first.

1:01:40 Surekha: Yeah, you know, you don't need to be the one juggling all of the plates, burning yourself out, sacrificing yourself just like you've seen you know, growing up and like we've done in our previous births where women have been suppressed.

1:02:06 Surekha: We don't need to be suppressed anymore, and I want you to know that it's possible for you to feel joy and for you to feel free and you to feel like you can be your true self, yeah.

1:02:27 Soraya: Without fear of how you're perceived, right?

1:02:30 Surekha: Yes, without judgment.

1:02:33 Soraya: Yeah, I think that's powerful.

1:02:35 Surekha: Yeah, you are you can be your truth without judgment.

1:02:41 Soraya: Yeah, I believe that as well.

1:02:43 Soraya: Um, and what's something your body or intuition has been teaching you lately?

1:02:49 Surekha: Oh wow.

1:02:50 Surekha: So I'm very connected spiritually, and what's been coming through for me is this message of faith.

1:03:09 Surekha: I have so much faith in the universe, God, and in my darkest hour in times where I've had excruciating pain, I've I now see that as part of my evolvement.

1:03:30 Surekha: I see that as my karmic cleansing, and I've literally seen magic happen around me, and so I'm always invited by the higher powers to look at the magic, and I just keep on evolving.

1:03:55 Surekha: I know that I'm a cycle breaker, I know that I'm on the path to liberation, and I know that I've broken cycles and I've rebirthed myself many times in this lifetime, but I feel like what I've been through recently in the last two months has probably been my biggest awakening and and rebirth, which is why I can then see those results appearing when I'm working with my my clients at the moment.

1:04:32 Surekha: The the transformations are off the scale at the moment, right?

1:04:38 Soraya: Okay, and what does living as you live at the South mean to you right now?

1:04:47 Surekha: It is living with ease and softness, whereas once upon a time I was hot so hard on myself, you know.

1:04:57 Surekha: I've been through my own personal journey with my marriage, with my family, you know, I'm an independent woman, I've got two beautiful children, and the limitless self for me means that everything comes with ease, and I not only step into my divine feminine, but I use it interchangeably with my masculine because there's so much out there about females stepping into their divine feminine, but actually doing this kundalini tantric work that I do, don't know how many people know about Shiv Shakti work, which is the divine feminine and the masculine.

1:05:47 Surekha: I have learned to weave the two interchangeably, and it works so well for me because I am so adaptable and I'm so flexible flexible, and this is the softness that I'm talking about.

1:06:03 Surekha: I don't have to be so hard on myself when all I focus on is my vibrational frequency to be of one with the universe.

1:06:16 Surekha: I am I am one with my creator, and all I see is magic, and I am a magnet to everything that I desire for my highest and best good.

1:06:31 Soraya: Love that.

1:06:32 Soraya: That's great.

1:06:33 Soraya: Thank you so much, Surekha, for coming today.

1:06:36 Soraya: And before I let you go, just um please let me know.

1:06:39 Soraya: We'll let our listeners know how they can reach you, they want to work with you.

1:06:43 Surekha: Yes, so you can find me on Instagram, um whole health healing, and on my Facebook uh Sureika Lalita.

1:06:55 Surekha: Uh yeah, those are the probably two best ways because I'm all over social media or my website, which is whole.healthhealing dot co.uk.

1:07:12 Soraya: Okay, so I'll I'll drop that down in the show notes.

1:07:15 Soraya: And , yeah, so thank you for today, and I'll see you at the retreat the 30th of November.

1:07:21 Soraya: You'll be joining on the Sunday.

1:07:23 Soraya: No, Saturday, sorry, the 29th.

1:07:26 Surekha: Yes, thank you so much for giving me this opportunity.

1:07:30 Surekha: It's been so lovely talking to you, Soraya.

1:07:33 Soraya: Yeah, likewise, Sureka.

1:07:35 Soraya: So uh I'll say goodbye for now.

1:07:37 Soraya: Um, and yeah, I'll see you on the 29th of November.

1:07:41 Soraya: Yeah, we'll see you on the 29th.

1:07:43 Surekha: Bye.

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